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		<title>Blogging &#8211; It&#8217;s about the conversations everywhere, stupid.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">There&#8217;s an interesting debate going on in the blogosphere and at the center is </span><a href="www.shyftr.com"><span style="font-size:1.2em;">Shyftr</span></a><span style="font-size:1.2em;">, yet another content aggregator. (I think my next post should be on &#8216;How many content aggregators do we really need?&#8217;)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">Tony Hung&#8217;s </span><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/04/12/fine-ill-say-it-shyftr-crosses-the-line/"><span style="font-size:1.2em;">railing </span></a><span style="font-size:1.2em;">against &#8216;content scrapers&#8217; and Robert Scoble&#8217;s </span><a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/04/12/era-of-bloggers-control-is-over/"><span style="font-size:1.2em;">proclaiming</span></a><span style="font-size:1.2em;"> that &quot;Era of blogger&#8217;s control is over&#8217;. There are two issues here, one is about content plagiarism that Tony is most concerned about ,</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">However, in my mind, when a service cannot exist *without* republishing others content in its entirety, and directly profits from that republishing <strong>without the original consent of the author</strong>, there’s something that isn’t right.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">I see Tony&#8217;s point, but bloggers can limit or block their feeds from being published in their entirety, thereby forcing folks to come to their blogs for the whole content. However, just because you can, doesn&#8217;t mean you should. I don&#8217;t condone plagiarism, but isn&#8217;t this is the same argument that traditional news media used when blogging was in its infancy? As I recall, there was a huge hue and cry about how bloggers were taking content from the news media and reposting with some comments on their own blogs, thereby driving traffic away from the traditional news media sites and to their own blog. Ironic, that bloggers have now started complaining about others &#8217;stealing&#8217; their content. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">The second and much bigger issue is around &#8216;fractured conversations&#8217; that have proliferated due to feed readers like </span><a href="www.friendfeed.com"><span style="font-size:1.2em;">Friendfeed</span></a><span style="font-size:1.2em;"> that allow comments. </span><a href="http://www.louisgray.com/live/2008/04/should-fractured-feed-reader-comments.html"><span style="font-size:1.2em;">Louis Gray</span></a><span style="font-size:1.2em;"> says,</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">The Web as a whole has clamored for full RSS feeds, not partial, so we don&#8217;t have to return to the originating site. Some of us have just as loudly asked for comments and conversations to enter the world of the RSS feed reader. Now that we&#8217;re starting to see what it&#8217;s like, maybe it&#8217;s not what we had fully anticipated.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">That&#8217;s a great point, Louis. I can&#8217;t help but wonder if bloggers ever had control over the conversations in the first place?! Blogging has always been about distributed content (and conversation). The reason blogging took off the way it did, was because discussions were no longer monopolized by a few individuals/media networks. Some Joe Schmoe in Idaho could start a conversation around organic potatoes and get a gazillion people participating in that conversation. That&#8217;s true democratization of content and communication, thanks to the Internet and social media, blogging included. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">I really liked Alexander van Elsa&#8217;s </span><a href="http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2008/04/12/you-cant-claim-an-idea-once-its-out-there-just-set-it-free/"><span style="font-size:1.2em;">thoughts</span></a><span style="font-size:1.2em;"> on this, </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">Conversation takes place everywhere. On the web, at home, in a restaurant, with family, friends, work, you name it. There is no controlling that, but we shouldn’t want to either.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">To be honest. If a blog post of mine leads to discussion anywhere on the web I would be very satisfied with it. I’m not in it for the traffic, the amount of readers, the number of pageviews. I blog because I believe that I might be able to give something to the people that want to take the time to read my stuff. &#8230;It tells me that the things I have written could perhaps inspire others to do something with it, completing and starting new circles.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">Say, you&#8217;re at a cocktail party and you start a conversation with one person. If it&#8217;s an interesting conversation, more folks will join in and the conversation will happen around you, with you. But if you (your conversation) aren&#8217;t engaging, folks may very well take that discussion elsewhere. I think the same theory applies to blogs, if you aren&#8217;t engaging the reader, they will move on and take their conversation with them. It doesn&#8217;t matter if you were the &#8216;original&#8217; initiator of that conversation or just a passerby. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">Here&#8217;s the thing, if someone picks up my feed through Friendfeed, and starts a conversation around it, I am okay with it. But you can&#8217;t force conversation and you can&#8217;t control where conversations happen, that&#8217;s true offline and that&#8217;s even more true online, where it is becoming easier to &#8216;move&#8217; conversations. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">That being said, would I love to have some type of &#8216;comment aggregator&#8217; to help me track my &#8216;popularity&#8217;? You betcha. For folks who blog for a living, the lack of trackability (and measurement) is a real issue and needs to be resolved. I think that the social media tools like feed readers have evolved so fast that the players/bloggers haven&#8217;t been able to keep up. Now we are scrambling to control the conversation, instead of enhancing the tools that caused this &#8216;fracturization&#8217; of conversation in the first place. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">Last year, Washington Post reported on how </span><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/28/AR2007122800693.html"><span style="font-size:1.2em;">RIAA</span></a><span style="font-size:1.2em;"> was suing music fans. I saw many commonalities between that debate and this current one. Here&#8217;s an interesting insight,</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">As technologies evolve, old media companies tend not to be the source of the innovation that allows them to survive. Even so, new technologies don&#8217;t usually kill off old media: That&#8217;s the good news for the recording industry, as for the TV, movie, newspaper and magazine businesses. But for those old media to survive, they must adapt, finding new business models and new, compelling content to offer.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:1.2em;">I think blogging is slowly turning into the &#8216;old media&#8217; and the same advice holds true. I don&#8217;t think the question is about &#8216;picking sides&#8217; as Scoble would have us do, it&#8217;s more about the fact that the Internet is constantly evolving and blogging, bloggers, and blogging metrics also need to evolve. It&#8217;s Darwinism, pure and simple, you can&#8217;t stop change, the only choice we have is to adapt. </span></p>
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		<title>Wow, I got Louisgrayed today! :-)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Wowza, what a day!</p>
<p>I got up this morning and out of sheer habit, the first thing I did was to look at my <a href="www.feedburner.com">feedstats</a> (yes, I know it&#8217;s a disease). I noticed byteloads of traffic coming to my blog, so I was surprised..pleasantly <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> &nbsp; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s when I realized that <a href="www.louisgray.com">Louis Gray</a>, one of my fav bloggers, whom I&#8217;ve been following on Friendfeed, added my name to <a href="http://www.louisgray.com/live/2008/04/five-more-blogs-you-should-be-reading.html">5 blogs</a> that he recommends. Holy Guacamole!! How neat is that?! Here are the other 4 blogs on his list. </p>
<p>Charlie Anzman / SEO and Tech Daily (<a href="http://anzman.blogspot.com/" target="new"><span style="color:#225588;">anzman.blogspot.com</span></a>)<br />Focus: SEO, Analytics, Web 2.0<br />Recent Highlight: <a href="http://anzman.blogspot.com/2008/03/a-list-just-changed-and-youre-on-it.html" target="new"><span style="color:#225588;">The A-list just changed and you&#8217;re on it</span></a><br />RSS Feed: <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/SeoAndTechDaily"><span style="color:#225588;">Subscribe Now</span></a></p>
<p>Hutch Carpenter / I&#8217;m Not Actually a Geek (<a href="http://bhc3.wordpress.com/" target="new"><span style="color:#225588;">bhc3.wordpress.com</span></a>)<br />Focus: RSS, Facebook, Social Networking<br />Recent Highlight: <a href="http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/the-best-blogs-youre-not-reading-toluu-knows/" target="new"><span style="color:#225588;">The Best Blogs You&#8217;re Not Reading? Toluu Knows</span></a><br />RSS Feed: <a href="http://bhc3.wordpress.com/feed/"><span style="color:#225588;">Subscribe Now</span></a></p>
<p>Eric Berlin / Online Media Cultist (<a href="http://www.onlinemediacultist.com/" target="new"><span style="color:#225588;"> onlinemediacultist.com</span></a>)<br />Focus: Twitter, TechMeme, Online Media<br />Recent Highlight: <a href="http://onlinemediacultist.com/2008/04/06/what-i-learned-friday-night-on-twitter/" target="new"><span style="color:#225588;">What I Learned Friday Night on Twitter</span></a><br />RSS Feed: <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/DumpsterBust"><span style="color:#225588;">Subscribe Now</span></a></p>
<p>Carlo Maglinao / TechBays (<a href="http://techbays.com/" target="new"><span style="color:#225588;">techbays.com</span></a>)<br />Focus: Google, RSS, LinkedIn<br />Recent Highlight: <a href="http://techbays.com/2008/04/03/ten-power-tips-on-facebook-usage/" target="new"><span style="color:#225588;">Ten Power Tips on Facebook Usage</span></a><br />RSS Feed: <a href="http://techbays.com/feed/"><span style="color:#225588;">Subscribe Now</span></a></p>
<p>The blogosphere is chockfull of amazing folks that I probably will never meet, but it&#8217;s great to have your work noticed by someone you actually admire. So, thanks for making my day, Louis! </p>
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